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		<title>By: it really is a CON people</title>
		<link>http://www.fashionreview.com.au/ksubi-davidjones-topshop/comment-page-1/#comment-8949</link>
		<dc:creator>it really is a CON people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who works in the very small circles of the Australian fashion industry, it is sad to see that most of the above opinions and impressions of both labels is hinged largely on the pr and image both these brands spend huge sums to project.

The reality is that both brands now manufacture overseas, CON jewellery, footwear and a large portion of garments are made in Asia, mainly Indonesia and China.

Both these companies have adopted very aggressive tactics with stockists in terms of competion - there are instances where these labels will efffectively push smaller independent labels they deem as direct competition or similar in ways out of retail stores. They do this by establishing themselves in a store, then threatening to pull out of stocking them if they continue to sell said competition. Of course it ultimately comes down to a decision by the stockist on whether to succumb to this, but these labels know they have the following, and often broader market coverage (for example, if Chronicles has clothing, jewellery, shoes and bags in a store and they want to push out a smaller jewellery label, the buyer will obviously opt to keep the label which covers more scope).

This was a strategy undertaken heavily by the Ksubi boys back when they were establishing themselves and it is a shame that the same tactics are being used by Gareth in the running of his business. What is more unfortunate is that with the clout these individuals have, particularly in Australia, it continues to work.

Finally I think it is important to remember that both these labels, in particular CON, have heavily appropriated what are very common and &quot;done before&quot; trends or aesthetics in Asia and Europe. The fact that they are worshipped as Gods back home, as someone wrote above, and feel they have the right to slander other brands or individuals they see as getting in their way is quite simply very underhanded and disgusting behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who works in the very small circles of the Australian fashion industry, it is sad to see that most of the above opinions and impressions of both labels is hinged largely on the pr and image both these brands spend huge sums to project.</p>
<p>The reality is that both brands now manufacture overseas, CON jewellery, footwear and a large portion of garments are made in Asia, mainly Indonesia and China.</p>
<p>Both these companies have adopted very aggressive tactics with stockists in terms of competion &#8211; there are instances where these labels will efffectively push smaller independent labels they deem as direct competition or similar in ways out of retail stores. They do this by establishing themselves in a store, then threatening to pull out of stocking them if they continue to sell said competition. Of course it ultimately comes down to a decision by the stockist on whether to succumb to this, but these labels know they have the following, and often broader market coverage (for example, if Chronicles has clothing, jewellery, shoes and bags in a store and they want to push out a smaller jewellery label, the buyer will obviously opt to keep the label which covers more scope).</p>
<p>This was a strategy undertaken heavily by the Ksubi boys back when they were establishing themselves and it is a shame that the same tactics are being used by Gareth in the running of his business. What is more unfortunate is that with the clout these individuals have, particularly in Australia, it continues to work.</p>
<p>Finally I think it is important to remember that both these labels, in particular CON, have heavily appropriated what are very common and &#8220;done before&#8221; trends or aesthetics in Asia and Europe. The fact that they are worshipped as Gods back home, as someone wrote above, and feel they have the right to slander other brands or individuals they see as getting in their way is quite simply very underhanded and disgusting behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: BluntKrayon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluntKrayon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This still stings a bit to be honest. I&#039;m a bit late on the uptake of the Ksubi, but I&#039;m a convert. I don&#039;t like the fact that they sold out to David Jones; I actually bought my first pair from the Paddington store, only for the fact that my ex-girlfriend use to rave on and on about them, years before it all took off.

But having said that, it&#039;s a business decision to keep the company alive; there will always have to be compromise in everything. Sure you might lose your &quot;edginess&quot;, but it&#039;s better than keeping to your principles and then shutting up shop, never to be seen again.

I must point out though, in regards to the production quality; I&#039;ll avoid any pairs of Ksubi&#039;s that are made in China. You can still find some that are made in Australia and US (look for the different buttons, rather than the generic full-plus button they have on them these days).

But a point of interest regarding Chronicles of Never; my brother found a pair in a boutique store, and even though they&#039;re made in Australia, the quality wasn&#039;t so great. The buttons on the button fly, came off while trying them on! He still decided to buy a pair, and a couple of months later, the buttons on the button fly came off as well! Make what you will.

Buy what you like. Don&#039;t buy things because other people do, or don&#039;t have them. Trying to make a statement, just for the sake of making a statement, is just as bad as selling out / being mainstream...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This still stings a bit to be honest. I&#8217;m a bit late on the uptake of the Ksubi, but I&#8217;m a convert. I don&#8217;t like the fact that they sold out to David Jones; I actually bought my first pair from the Paddington store, only for the fact that my ex-girlfriend use to rave on and on about them, years before it all took off.</p>
<p>But having said that, it&#8217;s a business decision to keep the company alive; there will always have to be compromise in everything. Sure you might lose your &#8220;edginess&#8221;, but it&#8217;s better than keeping to your principles and then shutting up shop, never to be seen again.</p>
<p>I must point out though, in regards to the production quality; I&#8217;ll avoid any pairs of Ksubi&#8217;s that are made in China. You can still find some that are made in Australia and US (look for the different buttons, rather than the generic full-plus button they have on them these days).</p>
<p>But a point of interest regarding Chronicles of Never; my brother found a pair in a boutique store, and even though they&#8217;re made in Australia, the quality wasn&#8217;t so great. The buttons on the button fly, came off while trying them on! He still decided to buy a pair, and a couple of months later, the buttons on the button fly came off as well! Make what you will.</p>
<p>Buy what you like. Don&#8217;t buy things because other people do, or don&#8217;t have them. Trying to make a statement, just for the sake of making a statement, is just as bad as selling out / being mainstream&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vintage Clothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vintage Clothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, great article with an interesting spin of things. It will be interesting to see how the industry goes as I think in a few years time - people will be willing to purchase local produce garments oppose to china (fall apart - throw away goods).

Sad days all round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, great article with an interesting spin of things. It will be interesting to see how the industry goes as I think in a few years time &#8211; people will be willing to purchase local produce garments oppose to china (fall apart &#8211; throw away goods).</p>
<p>Sad days all round.</p>
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		<title>By: Peeping tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeping tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dracula it&#039;s funny you should mention that..... I&#039;ve just viewed the look book for both CON &amp; BNWR for AW11 - I&#039;m sorry but I fear Gareth is running low on ideas as well.

I&#039;m getting so sick of him repeating designs... If I buy something from one collection I don&#039;t expect it to see it next season transferred from CON to BNWR and converted to a cheaper price point.

If he&#039;s going to take the road of profits and create a diffusion line... don&#039;t assume you can pull the wool over our eyes with mediocre rehash as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dracula it&#8217;s funny you should mention that&#8230;.. I&#8217;ve just viewed the look book for both CON &amp; BNWR for AW11 &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry but I fear Gareth is running low on ideas as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting so sick of him repeating designs&#8230; If I buy something from one collection I don&#8217;t expect it to see it next season transferred from CON to BNWR and converted to a cheaper price point.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s going to take the road of profits and create a diffusion line&#8230; don&#8217;t assume you can pull the wool over our eyes with mediocre rehash as well.</p>
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		<title>By: dracula.</title>
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		<dc:creator>dracula.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who ever posted that Gareth Moody has sold out, by putting his sister label blacknoise/whiterain in general pants, or similar places, and then compares that to ksubi , you my sir, are not quite on point.

Ksubi have sold production overseas.
chronicles, and even its sister brand, even though more affordable, is still 100% australian made, with imported silks/denim etc.

Ksubi have sold production over seas and doesnt have the quality it used to have in the materials dept. Which saddens me, i liked ksubi.

Gareth is keeping that shit real, even if his sidebrand is in GP/DJs,Its still at the forefront of things in design terms, ksubi are just doing rehashes of old shit, and it saddens me so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who ever posted that Gareth Moody has sold out, by putting his sister label blacknoise/whiterain in general pants, or similar places, and then compares that to ksubi , you my sir, are not quite on point.</p>
<p>Ksubi have sold production overseas.<br />
chronicles, and even its sister brand, even though more affordable, is still 100% australian made, with imported silks/denim etc.</p>
<p>Ksubi have sold production over seas and doesnt have the quality it used to have in the materials dept. Which saddens me, i liked ksubi.</p>
<p>Gareth is keeping that shit real, even if his sidebrand is in GP/DJs,Its still at the forefront of things in design terms, ksubi are just doing rehashes of old shit, and it saddens me so.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about u all stop trashing ksubi and get a life. go and wear your g-star and freshjive and leave ksubi to its loyal customers. ive been buying ksubi since i was sixteen and earning 10.50 an hour working at woolworths, and i will continue to buy till the label discontinues. 

All hail the fashion gods of australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about u all stop trashing ksubi and get a life. go and wear your g-star and freshjive and leave ksubi to its loyal customers. ive been buying ksubi since i was sixteen and earning 10.50 an hour working at woolworths, and i will continue to buy till the label discontinues. </p>
<p>All hail the fashion gods of australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worn Ksubi jeans for longer than I can remember, they simply have something that their direct competitors (ie Nudie) do not and they feel a little more &#039;real&#039;. Stocking in DJs certainly takes away from their hardened boutique edge/image, and brand image is paramount regardless of what anyone says, but given that other boutiques such as Nudie and Claud Maus do the same I guess it&#039;s just how it is in Australia.

A little sad, but if all the jeans labels are on par in that they all stock at DJs I guess it levels things out a bit. All the Ksubi campaigns still scream street edge etc and so I think they will continue to only attract that particular demographic for the most part - most people who want to spend a sh*t load on a known label to look &#039;edgy&#039; will just buy Nudies anyway *laughs*.

But do people really think that this makes Ksubis unwearable for those who want dress well and not look like you just walked into a department store? I don&#039;t really think so but maybe I&#039;m just holding on? :)

Thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worn Ksubi jeans for longer than I can remember, they simply have something that their direct competitors (ie Nudie) do not and they feel a little more &#8216;real&#8217;. Stocking in DJs certainly takes away from their hardened boutique edge/image, and brand image is paramount regardless of what anyone says, but given that other boutiques such as Nudie and Claud Maus do the same I guess it&#8217;s just how it is in Australia.</p>
<p>A little sad, but if all the jeans labels are on par in that they all stock at DJs I guess it levels things out a bit. All the Ksubi campaigns still scream street edge etc and so I think they will continue to only attract that particular demographic for the most part &#8211; most people who want to spend a sh*t load on a known label to look &#8216;edgy&#8217; will just buy Nudies anyway *laughs*.</p>
<p>But do people really think that this makes Ksubis unwearable for those who want dress well and not look like you just walked into a department store? I don&#8217;t really think so but maybe I&#8217;m just holding on? <img src='http://www.fashionreview.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you judge clothes on how cool the brand is,on whether you see a teeny bopper or a metro wearing them , on what stores their sold in . how exclusive the brand is, i think your a f*cken idiot, i like ksubi clothes as i reckon quite simply they look good. i bet you like bands/ djs for a while , until they get a fan base and start making a bit of money and then they&#039;ve sold outand you whinge to anyone wholl listen about how they used to be good. It&#039;s a pretty obscure reference but it reminds me of a song by lagawagon called &#039;Know it all&quot; ,its about a college radio dj, a line in the lyrics goes &quot;The bands are good to they make enough cash to eat food and get a pad , and then they&#039;ve sold out and their musics cliche, cause talents exclusive to bands without pay.
with Ksubi, it was simple, either make more money or die, wat would you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you judge clothes on how cool the brand is,on whether you see a teeny bopper or a metro wearing them , on what stores their sold in . how exclusive the brand is, i think your a f*cken idiot, i like ksubi clothes as i reckon quite simply they look good. i bet you like bands/ djs for a while , until they get a fan base and start making a bit of money and then they&#8217;ve sold outand you whinge to anyone wholl listen about how they used to be good. It&#8217;s a pretty obscure reference but it reminds me of a song by lagawagon called &#8216;Know it all&#8221; ,its about a college radio dj, a line in the lyrics goes &#8220;The bands are good to they make enough cash to eat food and get a pad , and then they&#8217;ve sold out and their musics cliche, cause talents exclusive to bands without pay.<br />
with Ksubi, it was simple, either make more money or die, wat would you do.</p>
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